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“My son, think upon virtue and do not turn your thoughts to sin, for man lives eternally and the things of the spirit are more greatly to be desired. Put out of your mind what is past and do not fret and worry about what has not yet come to pass.”
– from the Book of Jeraneck 2:16
That’s one of the better bits. A riff on “it came to pass”.
More discussion here –
http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=13590 And a recent bit on a Catholic board –
Interesting. Looks like I just missed this the first time around, but it seems like a good place to insert my most recent favorite quote: Quote:The easy confidence with which I know that another man’s religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also. — Mark Twain
nice Mark Twain quote, doug. :thumbup: Sambee, thanks for the links.
I noticed on that Catholic thread, the post:
Quote:Originally Posted by St Nephi
The cognitive dissonance in these Mormons is just amazing. How is it that they can so (rightfully) see this guy as a fraud despite his behavior almost being a parody of Joseph’s!?
(Nice name on that post!)They have a point, being quick to call Gill a fraud does seem two-faced, doesn’t it? However, I don’t feel compelled to accept EVERYONE who claims to be a prophet just because I accept prophets.
It seems it comes down to what we teach. Moroni 10. We should be able to seek God for answers on what is good and right for us, and reject those things that don’t feel right to us. That goes for any religion, right?
Perhaps there is danger in thinking that anything outside the LDS church and its line of priesthood authority should automatically be discounted, and some mormons can make that mistake. However, reading some of the Book of Jeraneck, I haven’t yet had any feeling I should accept it, so what else am I supposed to go on?
The interesting thing to me is that I do see the parallels, and instead of trying to imagine what it must have been like in the 1820s, I actually have a current situation with Gill to see what it looks like to have someone make these claims.
Like I said, in the end, I still have to use my intellect and my faith to decide to accept it or not.
Heber13 wrote:However, I don’t feel compelled to accept EVERYONE who claims to be a prophet just because I accept prophets.
It seems it comes down to what we teach. Moroni 10. We should be able to seek God for answers on what is good and right for us, and reject those things that don’t feel right to us. That goes for any religion, right?
I think a good corollary to the above Mark Twain quote would be
Quote:The wholly subjective nature of the faith I have in my religious tradition teaches me to suspect that others are equally likely to have an abiding faith in their religious tradition which is just as valid as mine.
Doesn’t quite roll off the tongue, but I never claimed to be Mark Twain.I just have a hard time getting past the fact that someone on a Catholic thread is talking about Mormons and cog dis. 😮 😈 Without going into the whole spiritual thing, it does seem greatly apparent to me that JS is much more talented than Matthew Gill is. In several ways. JS was not averse to borrowing, but he could be startlingly original. Gill doesn’t show much originality. But I may be wrong. Stonehenge as the Brother of Jared’s Buddy’s temple is original perhaps. (But it makes me think of Spinal Tap)
Gill is naive to think JS never practised polygamy. The evidence is overwhelming. But he does have a point that the current church dodges spiritual manifestations in the way that it cricises other churches for doing.
Not sure if this is by a member, but I notice that the book has itself a new cover. Less like one of our traditional scriptures…
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