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October 23, 2014 at 1:35 am #209266
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GuestBuried innocuously in an article about the scholarly essays on LDS.org is the following statement:
Quote:The church’s relatively new curriculum for teens is online only, and much of it is drawn from links to content on Gospel Topics pages. The church is preparing a new adult curriculum that similarly will be online-oriented and draw on Gospel Topics content.
—Deseret News, Wednesday, Oct. 22 2014
Alsohttps://www.lds.org/topics?lang=eng#media= shows two Q70’s, presumably, talking about the same thing.While they don’t say as much, It sounds to me like they are talking as if this may be for the 2015 adult curriculum. They say the curriculum will be on the internet so it can be updated as needed. If not, why would two people identified as the responsible GA’s be talking openly and officially this early?
Is this the answer to our hopes and prayers that I think it is? Do we dare hope?
October 23, 2014 at 2:35 am #291017Anonymous
GuestWe can hope, but I don’t think it will stop anything on fast Sunday. October 23, 2014 at 6:37 pm #291018Anonymous
Guestdash1730 wrote:Do we dare hope?
Cautiously.
October 23, 2014 at 8:22 pm #291019Anonymous
GuestThey’ve already announced the 2015 curriculum. http://www.lds.org/manual/2015http://www.lds.org/manual/2015” class=”bbcode_url”> If there are changes to the adult curriculum they don’t appear to be happening next year.
Also, we’re currently on the OT in the SS rotation. That means:
2015: NT
2016: BoM
2017: D&C/History
SO… 2017 before any of the essay material could conceivably be introduced into SS topics? Quite a ways away, who knows what could happen between now and then.
October 24, 2014 at 12:44 am #291020Anonymous
GuestI think there still is too much to write to have it be part of the curriculum next year. I might be wrong about that, but it’s my gut feeling. I like, very much, that the essays are being linked in the curriculum.
October 24, 2014 at 12:33 pm #291021Anonymous
GuestThe church better look at its own materials -> Quote:The Gift of Interpretation of Tongues (D&C 46:25)
This gift is sometimes given to us when we do not understand a language and we need to receive an important message from God. For example,
President David O. McKay had a great desire to speak to the Saints in New Zealand without an interpreter. He told them that he hoped that the Lord would bless them that they could understand him. He spoke in English. His message lasted about 40 minutes. As he spoke, he could tell by the expression on many of their faces and the tears in their eyes that they were receiving his message.(See Answers to Gospel Questions, 2:30–31.) https://www.lds.org/manual/gospel-principles/chapter-22-the-gifts-of-the-spirit?lang=eng This bizarre passage continues to appear in lessons for investigators and presumably in NZ too. New Zealand is an English speaking country, in fact, it has a higher percentage of native English speakers than many parts of the USA.
Presumably this is a reference to the Maori (native New Zealanders), the majority of whom spoke English back then. (A minority of them actually speak their own language these days)… or to Pacific Islanders who went there. If the second instance is the case, then that should be better explained – even so, Samoa, Tonga and Fiji all speak excellent English (although as a second language,)
October 24, 2014 at 4:04 pm #291022Anonymous
GuestGood point Sam…and you didn’t even need an interpreter to make your point!
October 24, 2014 at 6:34 pm #291023Anonymous
GuestYes sorry Heber, went into GP the other day – this came up. A regular annoyance. NZ must be in in top twenty English speaking countries by first language. (If you’re going by second language, India is bigger than US or UK combined for English speaking pop.)
Canada isn’t even that English speaking compared to NZ, or South Africa.
In fact President MacKay would be more likely to have had trouble understanding Scots relatives than NZers!
I consider this story an FPR promoted in print. Anyone who knows the basic facts would find the way it’s told strange.
October 24, 2014 at 7:03 pm #291024Anonymous
GuestI’m so glad you shared this Sam. As a missionary in NZ in the mid 80s (where DOM and Matthew Cowley were folk heroes) I always wondered how effective I was being. I’m so glad I now know I had the gift of tongues so as to be understood – I can now sleep well! 
:think: October 16, 2020 at 12:43 pm #291025Anonymous
GuestSorry folks, I haven’t been round for months. I’m still here despite the efforts of this year to break our spirits on every level… I discovered Holy Fetch today, which deals with FPRs. I’m going to submit the McKay story to them. It reads really badly to anyone who knows New Zealand (I’ve had a big hankering to go back there recently… It’s over twenty years since I last went. It’s gorgeous although the towns themselves are boring.). That manual isn’t in use anymore, but that story will have been repeated to millions of people at some point or another – basically anyone who got or read that manual.
I think we are better at not repeating FPRs, but GAs don’t help when they repeat stories about people who aren’t named, in locations we don’t know.
DarkJedi wrote:
I’m so glad you shared this Sam. As a missionary in NZ in the mid 80s (where DOM and Matthew Cowley were folk heroes) I always wondered how effective I was being. I’m so glad I now know I had the gift of tongues so as to be understood – I can now sleep well!
:think:
See, you had it too! Box of bees, mate!
October 16, 2020 at 1:55 pm #291026Anonymous
GuestSamBee, It’s good to have you back. I’ve missed your voice. October 16, 2020 at 3:16 pm #291027Anonymous
GuestMinyan Man wrote:
SamBee, It’s good to have you back. I’ve missed your voice.
Thank you MM, bit grumpier than the old me due to the situation, but surviving! Hope you are well.
I don’t know why I haven’t been visiting this board more to be honest.
October 16, 2020 at 3:42 pm #291028Anonymous
GuestSB, I understand grumpy. Our family is doing well considering the situation. I hope you & yours are well too.
I can’t wait for the election to be over. Maybe we will return to a more normal life again.
(Or, maybe not. Who knows for sure.)
October 16, 2020 at 10:57 pm #291029Anonymous
GuestYes, it looks to be a very dirty election, I’m afraid. I suspect postal ballots are going to be a huge controversy. It’s an incredibly bad time to be holding an election as well. I have been keeping away from the news, but I did see the VP debate. A bit dull and not really a debate. Because I was watching on a phone, I missed the most entertaining part of it – that fly on Pence’s hair!
Yes, I hope things do return to normal. I think this has gone on too long already. It would be easier to protect the vulnerable than destroying everyone’s livelihood. I haven’t so much as shaken someone’s hand for six months, let alone hugged anyone. Church is really strange, but I’m glad it’s happening again. When it reopened, I spoke to more people on that day than I had in the previous four months! On the other hand, I did watch the entire series of Futurama which I hadn’t seen in nearly twenty years.
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