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    I’ve long said that

    the EXTERNAL factors in mental health are played down as it does not suit the system

    to acknowledge them. I would even go as far as saying that if everyone

    was taken off psychiatric medication in the west – America included – we

    would end up having a revolution.

    All of these in the last year or two, except childhood abuse.

    * Doing a job last summer in which I worked hard, but they failed to pay

    me more than I was spending doing it, and didn’t pay me anything for

    some work.

    * Having three people from the gas company demanding entry to my home

    last year. I had to throw two of them out of my home because they had no

    IDs, and fob off the third. I was in bed – in my underwear when they

    called.

    * No hot water or heating at home from October until two weeks ago.

    * Abusive and legally threatening letters from a debt collection agency –

    despite having paid promptly each month. Still getting them.

    * In January, being harassed by two policemen for sitting in my car. I

    suffer from S.A.D. and need the sunlight. They could state no reason for

    the questions or any laws that I was breaking. At the end they started

    making things up like I spat at them, or squared up to them (I didn’t)

    but they let me go.

    * A note from the police asking to visit me about an “enquiry”- whatever

    that means.

    * Physical and verbal abuse at school as a child. (Bones broken, thrown

    down stairs etc)

    * A taxi driving neighbor who blocked my drive, and threatened to

    “batter” me when I asked him to move it politely. I had to complain to

    his company.

    * Having to fight the insurance company for six months after some

    policeman took down a plate wrong. I had to remember where I was four

    months previous, and disprove the allegation. Despite three lawyers’ letters, and then acceptance of my innocence, it came up again when I renewed my insurance.

    * Having to get rid of my home telephone after they charged me 70+ dollars per month – and getting 7/8 marketing calls per day on it.

    * Sleep deprivation due to heavy maintenance at night on railroad.

    etc etc

    Yes, it could be worse, but I see people around about me who are

    literally being driven insane by the society we live in.

    I wonder sometimes if religion is the answer, let alone medication. The

    church has helped me, but is it enough?

    #280114
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    I agree that in many cases there are outside influences that affect one’s mental status. I also recognize that for some people medication is very effective. I don’t necessarily agree the two are totally related. When meds are working fro someone I don’t believe they should stop taking them without consulting with their doctor, no matter what the outside circumstances. In some cases depression can be situational, and if the situation changes the depression may go away (for instance a job loss).

    #280115
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    This is an interesting topic to me. I took a class this summer called The Social Context of Mental Health. It addressed this kind of thing, of structural elements that contribute to mental health problems, as well as the perhaps rarer systems that promote mental health. There is still a stigma for governments and societies to acknowledge this, but I think things are starting to change somewhat. When we see trends that those with more severe mental health problems tend to be low income, or minority or things like that, it should be red flags to us that these are systemic problems that need to be addressed in a larger context than just one individual.

    #280116
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    I find it interesting that the only external aspect of my mental health the establishment will acknowledge is lack of sunlight.

    I think we do live in a sick society. I am thankful I experience violence/muggings etc and certain crime rarely, but it is interesting that many of the things that bother me involve either the government or big business acting legally.

    I think the following definitely factor in mental health for most people:

    * Economy, poverty, unemployment, bad work culture

    * Harassment – work (a friend was bullied for his Mormonism during the Romney campaign), sexual etc.

    * Gender, appearance, background etc and others’ reactions to it.

    * Problems within our church and others.

    * Architecture, town planning, living conditions

    * A feeling of helplessness, personal, political, social, spiritual

    * Diet

    I know this sounds funny to some, but the Word of Wisdom is good for me in dealing with some of these things. I used to “drown my sorrows” regularly – but that only added to them.

    #280117
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    journeygirl wrote:

    When we see trends that those

    with more severe mental health problems tend to be low income, or

    minority or things like that, it should be red flags to us that these

    are systemic problems that need to be addressed in a larger context than

    just one individual.

    Definitely! It’s almost an unspoken thing.

    I don’t deny physiological/genetic factors – no way – but we add to

    them. We’ve promoted talking cures, and chemical cures, but rarely dealt

    with social cures.

    I could add –

    * Anorexia/bulimia – I suspect these are mostly driven by external

    factors. Media, advertising, bullying etc

    * Drug/substance abuse – massive external/cultural factors.

    * Homosexuals. Enough said.

    * Indigenous groups who have massive problems practically everywhere.

    Not to mention African Americans etc.

    * Illness due to crime.

    * Workplaces themselves which are designed badly.

    Is religion the cure? Partly. It can bring out the good sometimes. And

    make us feel better.

    We only need to look here and elsewhere to see religion can be both part

    of the problem and part of the solution.

    But IMHO – our church’s most tangible benefit is a community after most

    communities have broken down.

    I think Jesus himself was all too aware of societal problems and even

    mental health, in his time and that he tried to get his contemporaries

    to create a better society and attitude to one another. He went to society’s outcasts – the poor, the sick, women, and even dealt with racism (e.g. Romans and Samaritans)

    #280118
    Anonymous
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    That’s a good point about how a church can help (or hurt). I don’t know if very many governments will be able to figure out or agree on how to be effective in fixing the structures that aren’t working, but if at least there were smaller local programs, like a church, that could help make a difference. I’m sure some churches do this better than others. I think the LDS church is good with helping economically, but maybe not as good with helping people who feel hopeless or unsupported in a trial, or even building up self-confidence.

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