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Valoel wrote:
We work on accepting things as they are, understanding things as they are, and experiencing what is truly real — the now. The future does not exist. The past is a memory that fades and morphs over time.
Rix wrote:1) I am responsible for everything in my life; and
2) I have no expectations of anybody else; anything I receive from others is a gift.
After reading your posts, Valoel and Rix, my eyes welled up in joy. To me, this concept is the most important concept for us to learn and live our whole lives. It may also be the most difficult thing to learn and live, which makes sense if it”s also the most important.
Sorry if that sounds overstated, but I believe it and feel it deeply.
In that “universe space” of real detachment and presence and awareness, the greatest communication with the “light” inside all of us happens. It feels instinctual. Every thought is “pure”, motive is “good”, intimacy is deeper, joy is ecstatic, humor is funnier, food tastes better, there is joy in sunshine and rain alike. Grief and pain are also more acute but embraced as an important part of the process, as lesson, as a type of “hands-on-living”.
I haven’t been able to maintain super long stretches of true detachment in the year+ that I’ve been attempting to live that way, but when I’m in that place, oh the joy!
Tom Haws wrote:Rix, you are right. You have been through great tribulation. You have overcome. Thanks for sharing, brother. You spoke the truth. I’m probably about 10 years behind you. Been through “to pot”, transcendence epiphany, and the gurus. Just barely finally getting it about love and about that personal evidence of bad feeling that I am seeing things in error. Wow! It’s great.
Thanks Tom! I certainly don’t think I’m “there” yet, but a lot closer than I’ve been! Hindsight is 20/20 (I can say that as an eye doctor…
😆 ), but I can see now that all the challenges I had were great gifts that I needed to have the experience. It’s hard to be grateful for the pain when you’re in it, but it really increases your appreciation when you’re on the other side, huh?!swimordie wrote:Valoel wrote:We work on accepting things as they are, understanding things as they are, and experiencing what is truly real — the now. The future does not exist. The past is a memory that fades and morphs over time.
Rix wrote:1) I am responsible for everything in my life; and
2) I have no expectations of anybody else; anything I receive from others is a gift.
After reading your posts, Valoel and Rix, my eyes welled up in joy. To me, this concept is the most important concept for us to learn and live our whole lives. It may also be the most difficult thing to learn and live, which makes sense if it”s also the most important.
Sorry if that sounds overstated, but I believe it and feel it deeply.
In that “universe space” of real detachment and presence and awareness, the greatest communication with the “light” inside all of us happens. It feels instinctual. Every thought is “pure”, motive is “good”, intimacy is deeper, joy is ecstatic, humor is funnier, food tastes better, there is joy in sunshine and rain alike. Grief and pain are also more acute but embraced as an important part of the process, as lesson, as a type of “hands-on-living”.
I haven’t been able to maintain super long stretches of true detachment in the year+ that I’ve been attempting to live that way, but when I’m in that place, oh the joy!
Absolutely amen…and another amen!
❗ ❗ Old-Timer » 05 Aug 2009, 06:35 Quote:“All things” would include the Church, would it not? It also would include within each individual member.
Perhaps the lack of struggle we crave so much isn’t a good thing in the long run – or even possible. Perhaps learning to be at peace with extrenal AND internal opposition is one of the great liberators of the Gospel (“Good News”) – the idea that the inherent turmoil that “must needs be” is unavoidable and reconciled (“atoned for”) already in the eternal scheme of things.
The above made me wonder if I have gotten to good at keeping problem people out of my life. For forty of my sixty five years I have lived a tranquil life, compared to many friends who keep letting others in that cause a whole lot of excitetment. I suspect my hair turned grey early watching my friends go from one problem to another, and most of those problems were other people. I had read that the family of Pres. Benson used to vote on wheather or not a new friend of a member of the family would be allowed into the inner circle of friendship. To me that would be a wise princple, it’s easier to fool one family member, but much harder to fool a group. Prehaps my growth level would increase if I let a little more excitement into my life.
I’m so glad this had NOTHING to do with those books every teen is reading or I was going to have to get Medieval on the Board! Pema Chordon is a great read about these kinds of topic (balance of light and dark or not letting things take control and of letting go) – wisdom of no escape and when things fall apart are my favorites.
Antiquarian wrote:I’m so glad this had NOTHING to do with those books every teen is reading or I was going to have to get Medieval on the Board!
Hahaha. Excellent observation! Fortunately, that isn’t what I was thinking about.
😆 😆 😆 Love this quote Valoel! I feel exactly like this and was trying to explain these feelings to my father the other day through some Joseph Campbell quotes. But this is better! Haven’t had time to read the individual responses yet and I can’t wait to make it back to those! Thanks for sharing this! I, too, may have to steal it!
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