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http://www.afterallwecando.com/ LOL, this is brilliant! You can’t manage what you can’t measure
Here it is. So far, 384 commandments (and counting) if you want to really do “all you can do” in order to receive saving grace and mercy.
:clap: That pretty much sums it up though I have to agree about the loins thing. Sometimes suspenders just don’t do the job. They barely got started. I’m sure we could do better than that. I’m confused … how to do #109 “Pay child support” and #259 “Divorce is strongly discouraged”? Also, #302 is No Polygamy, but #79 is “Must engage in plural marriage (or in afterlife)”????
I do appreciate the last few that tell me what to say in my heart-felt testimony. Thanks for sharing, Brian!
Heber13 wrote:I’m confused … how to do #109 “Pay child support” and #259 “Divorce is strongly discouraged”?
Also, #302 is No Polygamy, but #79 is “Must engage in plural marriage (or in afterlife)”????
There are several commandments in the list that are diametrically opposed. I didn’t really know what to do except just include them as-is. This is where the cog-dis kicks in. I tried to include a reliable source reference for each item on the list so if I’m mis-interpreting any of them let me know and I’ll correct it.
I’m glad you’re enjoying the list. I have some ideas for adding to it tonight. I’m going to farm the Duty to God award. That’s like a built in check list already. If you have any other source materials you think might be handy for completing the list let me know. It’s my hypothesis that Mormons have at least as many laws as the old judaic laws from Jesus’ time. That amounts to 613 total.
So I’m going to keep looking until I can find that many or until I lose interest in the project. My attention span is short so we’re talking about 1-2 more weeks tops.
Dont forget to review the YW Personal Progress. There are checklists in there too. Quote:For behold, it is not meet that I should command in all things; for he that is compelled in all things, the same is a slothful and not a wise servant; wherefore he receiveth no reward.
That’s classic! I’m going to add it and make sure it’s the first item!
D&C 58:42 wrote:Don’t ask for a list like this: “For behold, it is not meet that I should command in all things; for he that is compelled in all things, the same is a slothful and not a wise servant; wherefore he receiveth no reward.”
As a disclaimer, having been the one who started this discussion on our forum, I don’t think it is wrong to strive to be a better person. It also isn’t bad, if someone feels the desire to stretch themselves, to push beyond our comfort level in exploring a religious discipline. That is one powerful form of meditation IMO. The great positive I get out of this list, beyond it being amusing to my irreverent sense of humor, is the stark picture it paints — that you SERIOUSLY can not eat all the dishes at the buffet. You can’t. It isn’t possible to do every single thing that every leader has ever thought might have been a good idea. Some of the items on the list contradict each other.
I think it is good to break free of the negative direction this list parodies. Many of the items can be explored as a positive and enlightening practice or discipline though.
Brian Johnston wrote:I think it is good to break free of the negative direction this list parodies. Many of the items can be explored as a positive and enlightening practice or discipline though.
It’s interesting to see how much on the list we do out of habit or as a matter of course. What matters is our intention and that implies to why we do or don’t do something. If it’s to purchase blessings and ultimately exaltation we may be disappointed. The pharisees get a bad rap for their strict adherence to the law but in there mind it was to be faithful every day in order to bring the blessings of the temple into their homes. Anyway, the trick seems to be good without having to think about it. If we can reach that point, we’ll likely do ok come judgement.
One positive of this list is that it underscores the need for self-direction in gospel and Church matters. AS Brian said, you can’t do it all, so, you have to pick and choose what is most important given your life circumstances, perhaps your sense of personal mission in life, your abilities, and what your own clock tells you etcetera. If the list was short, and manageable, there would be less excuse to be selective about where you put your effort. It’s amazing, things I once thought of as liabilities are actually assets in this sometimes confusing and overwhelming thing we call Mormonism.
Impossible lists, conflicting statements from GA’s through history, and even whitewashed history itself all leads me to the conclusion that personal interpretation is far more necessary and important than we are taught at Church. Thank you Church, for making this so impossible I MUST grant myself the priviledge of prioritization — and therefore — freedom!!!
It’s great to see the discussion. And I see that you all have gotten the point of the list. It is to drive home the message you have taken. Freedom! I never understood that before. I really thought I was supposed to be perfect and it nearly destroyed me. There are a lot of Mormons out there suffering from the disease of perfection and I hope that my list will push them enough to see that they can break free.
It amuses me to contemplate how often there is a form of safety ejection system built in to so many elements of Mormonism. If you actually fully believe it, take it to heart, and literally try to do what is preached, it almost guarantees being launched into freedom (in or out of the Church, not saying it must only be in one direction). Not to sound arrogant, but seriously. The “slackers” in the faith are almost never going to build that momentum. The people who never really care either drift away in indifference and barely give it a thought, or people never care enough to cause them self a problem within the Church as an insider.
Only “the elect” of God (the people who care too much about it really) are the ones who build up enough pressure to explode.
Jet fuel to freedom? Sure, I like that metaphor.
SilentDawning wrote:One positive of this list is that it underscores the need for self-direction in gospel and Church matters.
True, true… and I think this is why we need repentance.
Sins of omission are the really scary ones.
Some of these commandments we don’t really need to remember, we just don’t do them.
How many board members are murderers for example? Or have engaged in Euthanasia?
Others apply to one gender or the other, which further cuts the list down.
Parental duty only applies to those with children.
http://www.afterallwecando.com I just updated the list to 531 items. Now including links for about half the references.
Goal is 613 items to match judaic law.
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