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Can I get a drum roll please? The winning talk on Mother’s Day goes to my daughters singles ward. Two ward members spoke. The first girl spoke about how hard motherhood is. I assume she knows about this from personal experience.
Yes, you read right – girlfriends. Those nameless, faceless, un-referenced girl friends. Yep. Them. He explained that we really don’t know the ages of these young men, but their girl friends helped keep them pure, upstanding and so on. Even more than that, they supported and encouraged these young warriors to do their duty.
I am really at a loss as to what to say. The scriptures are filled with noble women who at least have names, who have stories, etc. No – we just made up some girls. And then made them model citizens. I asked my daughter if this meant that Nephi’s sisters were really worthless, because they did get one mention in a verse in the early part of Nephi’s history.
On that amazing note, I am going to finish my Mother’s Day brownie and call it a day.
Sometimes we try too hard. He probably thought he was being sensitive.
🙄 :shh: In truth I had the hardest time not laughing. The minute he said “their girl friends” I knew we were up for something good. Hey it was an original twist on an old story. There have to be points for genius with this one. But how many earrings did they have? I always envisioned the stripling warriors as gay, myself. 
Ours was a regurgitation of Elder Oaks talk on priesthood authority from April conference. Reflexzero wrote:Ours was a regurgitation of Elder Oaks talk on priesthood authority from April conference.
For Mother’s day?
Mom3… I laughed out loud at the warriors’ girlfriends story. I’m glad you were able to smile about it.
mackay11 wrote:Reflexzero wrote:Ours was a regurgitation of Elder Oaks talk on priesthood authority from April conference.
For Mother’s day?
Mom3… I laughed out loud at the warriors’ girlfriends story. I’m glad you were able to smile about it.
Yes. Specifically the part about who gets ordained and who doesn’t. It was a nice touch.
mom3 wrote:Can I get a drum roll please?
The winning talk on Mother’s Day goes to my daughters singles ward. Two ward members spoke. The first girl spoke about how hard motherhood is. I assume she knows about this from personal experience.
Yes, you read right – girlfriends. Those nameless, faceless, un-referenced girl friends. Yep. Them. He explained that we really don’t know the ages of these young men, but their girl friends helped keep them pure, upstanding and so on. Even more than that, they supported and encouraged these young warriors to do their duty.
I am really at a loss as to what to say. The scriptures are filled with noble women who at least have names, who have stories, etc. No – we just made up some girls. And then made them model citizens. I asked my daughter if this meant that Nephi’s sisters were really worthless, because they did get one mention in a verse in the early part of Nephi’s history.
On that amazing note, I am going to finish my Mother’s Day brownie and call it a day.
First the non-Easter Sundays so many experienced, now Mother’s Day nonsense. I’m afraid for the next funeral – the kind where you can hardly tell who’s died.
On the funerals thing, someone made a great comment about that phenomenon, that the deceased is reduced to a very effective prop in an object lesson on the Plan of Salvation. Also, am I just being a crotchety old lady in that I don’t like saying “Plan of Happiness” instead of “Plan of Salvation”? I don’t think that’s a good change. hawkgrrrl wrote:On the funerals thing, someone made a great comment about that phenomenon, that the deceased is reduced to a very effective prop in an object lesson on the Plan of Salvation. Also, am I just being a crotchety old lady in that I don’t like saying “Plan of Happiness” instead of “Plan of Salvation”? I don’t think that’s a good change.
Could it generously be thought of as the church wanting to move away from the idea of needing to complete a process and make certain achievements to earn salvation? Having said that, would that also have the same implication for happiness. I wonder if it’s intentional or if it’s just a cultural copying meme.
Quote:that the deceased is reduced to a very effective prop in an object lesson on the Plan of Salvation.
We recently attended a funeral of a ward member and friend. It was very typical of LDS funerals. On the way home my TBM, BYU graduate daughter told my husband and I, our funerals wouldn’t be held in the LDS church. They wouldn’t be a “missionary experience” – despite what her Bishop said. No they would be held some where else and be a celebration of our lives.
I was stunned by her decision partly because we have never discussed our funerals or deaths, partly because she devoutly loves temple baptism day, YSA functions, firesides, General Conference. The works. Funerals are to be sans the religion.
My family and my wife’s family (all orthodox members) refused to have a typical Plan of Salvation talk at our fathers’ funerals. References to their faith, in context of remembrance tributes, were enough. Also, if anyone is interested, one of my Sunday School lessons from February was about the Plan of Salvation vs. the Plan of Happiness. It’s in the thread here that contains the lesson recaps, but it also is on my personal blog at:
http://thingsofmysoul.blogspot.com/2014/02/sunday-school-lesson-recap-plan-of.html I understand and don’t mind each description, as long as both are used, since different people respond better to each one. I won’t like it if we end up only with references to the Plan of Happiness, for reasons outlined in the lesson.
Mother’s Day: Three women speakers. A talk where the focal point of the talk was a quote from a Dreamworks movie.
🙂 and a talk where a lady related a lot of personal experiences about her and her dad. Wasn’t quite sure what to make of that.hawkgrrrl wrote:the deceased is reduced to a very effective prop in an object lesson on the Plan of Salvation.
I know what you are saying, but I will comment that I recently attended a funeral for a friend at a Christian church, and wow… it was way over-the-top in using the opportunity to spread the Word and to ask for monetary donations for the Church’s projects. Ich. IMO, the LDS Church is exemplary in comparison.hawkgrrrl wrote:I don’t like saying “Plan of Happiness” instead of “Plan of Salvation”? I don’t think that’s a good change.
Boy, me either. Plan of Happiness strikes me as very childish. Also, it should really be called “Plan of Joy”, since we exist, we are told in LDS scriptures, so that we “might have joy”. I like that better, because we could refer to it as PlaJo.
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