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What a great quote from your relative on prayer, whether you are mormon or not…it is a good thought….whether you pray to God through Christ, or some other being or power in the universe as God…it is a good thought. I have enjoyed finding out some about my family history, but I am not the one doing the research. – Strokes run in my family. Both my maternal g-parents died of stroke, as did my gg-parents on that side, and since my mother has had multiple blood clots, and I’ve had two, and two of my sisters have had them, we know we have an issue there. It’s not such a bad way to go, but my gg-pa who was a doctor had a stroke and didn’t die, but after his stroke he could only say the word “Sh**.” That got pretty frustrating for him.
– Family name “Rothermel” means “red arm” because one of my ancestors was such a bloodthirsty warrior his arm was red with the blood of his enemies. I can be a bit ruthless at times!
– Family name “Finkbeiner” means “hopping bird” because one of my ancestors was very restless and moved from town to town. This is totally me. I get very antsy if I’m in one place too long. I went to six different elementary schools, so clearly my parents have the same antsiness!
– One of my ancestors in the Irwin line was supposed to meet his lover by the trysting tree, but he didn’t show up because he had killed a guy in a bar fight and fled to America. This is legend stuff – so who knows the reality; it’s memorialized in an epic poem, though.
– Duncan is an ancestor of mine. This is the famous Duncan killed by MacBeth in Shakespeare’s play. However, in reality, Duncan was a weak and ineffective leader. Hopefully I got more Rothermel than Duncan.
– St. Margaret (Queen of Scotland, married to Malcolm III) is also a relative of mine. She was pretty devout and awesome. I think it’s cool she was made a Saint.
– If you go back far enough, I’m related to William I (the Conqueror) and so is my DH. Basically, if you didn’t die in the Black Plague, your progeny are likely to have common ancestry. One big happy family!
Thanks. I should mention that some of my other relative’s efforts were firmly towards proving his church was true (questionable) and slagging off some of the other denominations, but he does have his moments. He’s left quite a bit of writing behind as it turns out. What I do like about those words (other than the kneeling, which I’ve always found uncomfortable) is that he suggests that people should try and use their own words as much as they can. It’s good because it’s not condemnatory, and suggests God can forgive our failings. I must admit this is stuff I’ve been rediscovering recently, so finding this out is interesting.
Quote:– Duncan is an ancestor of mine. This is the famous Duncan killed by MacBeth in Shakespeare’s play. However, in reality, Duncan was a weak and ineffective leader. Hopefully I got more Rothermel than Duncan.
– St. Margaret (Queen of Scotland, married to Malcolm III) is also a relative of mine. She was pretty devout and awesome. I think it’s cool she was made a Saint.
Queen Margaret’s a bit controversial in other ways though. She is considered to be the one who helped start the decline of the Gaelic language in Lowland Scotland, and the demise of the old Celtic church traditions. Her stepchildren all had Gaelic names, her own children had English ones… A number of places in Scotland are named for her, including a university. But she promoted standardized Catholic doctrine in Scotland, which is why the Vatican canonized her.
MacBeth the play is very different from the history. Shakespeare took a lot of his information from Hollinshed, and Bill often played to court prejudices e.g. Richard III was not the evil monster he was portrayed as, he just happened to be the enemy of the ancestors of the Tudors.
Scottish kings tended to have short reigns, either being murdered by their colleagues or by English intrigue. The most successful reigns were when there was a regent ruling in the stead of a child king. So in that sense, I wouldn’t write off Duncan, because they had a hard job. Scotland was very tribal into modern times.
Quote:– Strokes run in my family. Both my maternal g-parents died of stroke, as did my gg-parents on that side, and since my mother has had multiple blood clots, and I’ve had two, and two of my sisters have had them, we know we have an issue there. It’s not such a bad way to go, but my gg-pa who was a doctor had a stroke and didn’t die, but after his stroke he could only say the word “Sh**.” That got pretty frustrating for him.
Yes, this kind of stuff is useful to know. I’ve got major cardio-vascular problems in my family… but nothing like cystic fibrosis etc. I tend to wonder how much of it was down to diet and lifestyle though. I’m hoping that abstaining from coffee will help reduce my risk of heart disease, but I’ll have to change my diet more.
The church is big on health, so it’s a wonder that they don’t encourage this kind of research. Knowing what you do about your blood problems means that you can at least prepare for it, and/or change your lifestyle so that you’re less likely to get one. I appreciate it is scary for some people, but you can also let other sections of your family know about this problem, including your children.
Also, knowing you come from particular ancestry can help you identify some diseases. Certain diseases are common amongst Jews, people from around the Eastern Mediterranean are likely to suffer from thalassemia, people from Indian (proper Indian) and Polynesian ancestry are likely to have kidney trouble, people with African ancestry sickle cell anemia etc. Some diseases run in small tribal groups as well, or the Amish.
Just read this post again, can’t believe I missed it the first time. Very nice Sam 😆 SamBee wrote:All the American presidents are related, and the Mormon prophets, and of course have the Merovingian shape shifting reptilian bloodline.
You should read his “essay” on how the JWs and LDS are the same organization. And all these years I thought they were running a door knocking competition against one another!!! (Other than door knocking, non-trinitarianism and some WoW type rules, the JWs aren’t that like Mormonism) http://mormonism.suite101.com/article.cfm/the_mormon_reptilian_conspiracy Quote:While some beliefs of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints may seem strange to an outsider, there is one set of theories out there that is not part of Mormon belief and seem to be taken out of the plot of the 1980s mini-series V.
😆 I haven’t seen the new version of V, but always remember Diana snacking on the fluffy rodent in the old one. Couldn’t see Presidents Monson, Kimball or Hinckley doing this. And don’t try it at home. Jaw dislocation is painful for most humans…
[img]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Y7jEHwotpaU/SaPUniJYIgI/AAAAAAAAASY/8DT9jly61N0/s400/diana_v_12.jpg [/img] Hellarious article. Very funny stuff! My family history reveals the following: 1. A disturbingly large number of my relatives on my mom’s side were murder victims, usually killed by Native Americans out on the plains. A few were also found guilty and executed for being horse thieves.
2. After telling a lot of people that my family wasn’t rich or powerful enough to have practiced polygamy in the early days, it turns out two great-great-great grandfathers were polygamists. In fact, there was a funny story with one of them. He had three wives and apparently his third wife was a little nutty. When she found out he was planning to take a fourth wife, she locked him in a closet for a week!
😮 After that, he decided he didn’t want any more women around.3. The father of the polygamist mentioned in #2 was a shipyard worker in Scotland who fell in love with the daughter of a wealthy prominent businessman. Her parents forbid them to marry, so they eloped and emigrated to Canada. The way the story was written, it sounded like something out of a movie.
4. At one point, it was believed that my family had some English royalty that went back to the 10th century. But it turns out they got the maiden name of the woman wrong, so there went the link to nobility.
Quote:4. At one point, it was believed that my family had some English royalty that went back to the 10th century. But it turns out they got the maiden name of the woman wrong, so there went the link to nobility.
We’ve all got the blood of peasants and kings in us. Especially when we consider how many people were conceived on the wrong side of the bed, and don’t appear in records.
I found out the other day one of my ancestors married his housemaid, which was interesting.
Lots of interesting finds! I came across something from a distant cousin online, it said I have relatives that were killed during the Salem witch hunts. I also have relatives that were baptized by and married by Joseph Smith in Kirtland. A relative that was at Mountain Meadows. It gets fun to read the history books when you can find some relative in them!
According to one of Benjamin Disraeli’s letters, one of my relatives bored him to tears at some dinner or other… 😆 (If any of you don’t know who Benjamin Disraeli was, you should do! Probably one of the most significant British Prime Ministers, and the only Jewish one too. Also a notable novelist)
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