Universalism in Mormonism

[Anonymous]

An optimistic quote from “Rube Goldberg Machines” by Adam Miller:

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“…if Mormonism genuinely intends to revolutionize the world, then it must render itself sufficiently generic for the entire world to be transformed by it. This, in my estimation, is what has been happening for the past 200 years. Mormonism has done nothing other than self-consciously and consistently purify and unversalize its own potent inflection of our generic declaration of the unversality of God’s love for all his children. Mormonism has not been watering itself down and moving ever farther from its original impetus. Rather, it has been moving ever closer.”

[Anonymous]

Mercyngrace

Joseph Smith said that paradise and spirit prison are the same thing. It’s the Spirit World, and it is one’s state of mind as they go from this world to the next that make it a prison or a paradise.

[Anonymous]

Ruthiechan wrote:

Mercyngrace

Joseph Smith said that paradise and spirit prison are the same thing. It’s the Spirit World, and it is one’s state of mind as they go from this world to the next that make it a prison or a paradise.

Yup. :thumbup:

[Anonymous]

mercyngrace wrote:

Ruthiechan wrote:

Mercyngrace

Joseph Smith said that paradise and spirit prison are the same thing. It’s the Spirit World, and it is one’s state of mind as they go from this world to the next that make it a prison or a paradise.

Yup. :thumbup:

One of the common themes I have noted of interest in the near-death experiences I have studies is the idea that in the life to come, we can think a thing and it becomes real to us. But there is more to it than that. We can sense the thoughts of others as well. And as such, we will tend to group with others who THINK as we do. So if we are mean, arrogant, spiteful, cruel, sadistic, and so on; we will associate with those that are like we are and they and our thoughts will form our prison. To liberate ourselves, we must put off our self. If we wish to truly be free in the life to come, one must seek to be kind, liberal with all one has and giving to all comers, loving, accepting, nurturing, and full of goodness. It is very much as the scriptures say that our thoughts will betray us. We must master ourselves and exceed our natural impulses to liberate ourselves from such shackles.

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Tobin wrote:

we will tend to group with others who THINK as we do.

I agree with that, Tobin. I think it also is told in the scriptures for us to become like God, so He will know us as His friends. It is who we become, and like you said, how we think that we take into the next world.

[Anonymous]

Tobin wrote:

mercyngrace wrote:

Ruthiechan wrote:

Mercyngrace

Joseph Smith said that paradise and spirit prison are the same thing. It’s the Spirit World, and it is one’s state of mind as they go from this world to the next that make it a prison or a paradise.

Yup. :thumbup:

One of the common themes I have noted of interest in the near-death experiences I have studies is the idea that in the life to come, we can think a thing and it becomes real to us. But there is more to it than that. We can sense the thoughts of others as well. And as such, we will tend to group with others who THINK as we do. So if we are mean, arrogant, spiteful, cruel, sadistic, and so on; we will associate with those that are like we are and they and our thoughts will form our prison. To liberate ourselves, we must put off our self. If we wish to truly be free in the life to come, one must seek to be kind, liberal with all one has and giving to all comers, loving, accepting, nurturing, and full of goodness. It is very much as the scriptures say that our thoughts will betray us. We must master ourselves and exceed our natural impulses to liberate ourselves from such shackles.

Yes. I noticed that too in NDE’s. It makes the admonition to watch our thoughts in the scriptures make a lot more sense.

So the question is, how do you control your thoughts? I start to make progress, at least I think I do, and then I just seem to get worse at it. I dunno. o_O

Heber13 wrote:

Tobin wrote:

we will tend to group with others who THINK as we do.

I agree with that, Tobin. I think it also is told in the scriptures for us to become like God, so He will know us as His friends. It is who we become, and like you said, how we think that we take into the next world.

It certainly explains how He’ll know us as His friends. It’ll be through our thoughts.

[Anonymous]

Ruthiechan wrote:

[Yes. I noticed that too in NDE’s. It makes the admonition to watch our thoughts in the scriptures make a lot more sense.

So the question is, how do you control your thoughts? I start to make progress, at least I think I do, and then I just seem to get worse at it. I dunno. o_O

Some might think I’m kidding, but in all seriousness – I’d get a dog. You can learn a lot about love and acceptance from a pet like that. If you can adopt the good qualities of such a pet into your being and do our best each day treating one another as we ought to, I do not believe the Lord will deny us.

Also, I have hope in the life to come, but I have not been there and do not know for a fact that there is a life after this. However, I think about it this way. If there is not, I don’t think I’ll be too disappointed since I will cease to exist. And if there is, I will approach it with a bit of trepidation, immense humility and a sense of honor to be allowed to continue to exist, a strong sense of loss at being separated from my loved ones here, but also a sense of excitement and happiness to be greeted by my ancestors who have gone on before. It will be a grand occasion to embrace them once again and knell at the feet of my Lord and Savior, who I will feel most unworthy and inadequate of being in his presence. The thought if such a reunion brings tears to my eyes even as I write this and it something I look forward to, but I still have much to do in this world and will do all I can and do the best I can with what time the Lord blesses me with in this world.

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