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October 14, 2013 at 7:58 am #265940
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GuestQuote:“Individual members are encouraged to independently strive to receive their own spiritual confirmation of the truthfulness of Church doctrine. Moreover, the Church exhorts all people to approach the gospel not only intellectually but with the intellect and the spirit, a process in which reason and faith work together.”
Official Church web site The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saintshttp://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/approaching-mormon-doctrine October 14, 2013 at 7:58 am #265941Anonymous
GuestQuote:“The Lord uses imperfect people…He often allows their errors to stand uncorrected. He may have a purpose in doing so, such as to teach us that religious truth comes forth “line upon line, precept upon precept” in a process of sifting and winnowing similar to the one I know so well in science.”
Henry Eyring, Reflections of a Scientist, p. 47
October 14, 2013 at 8:00 am #265942Anonymous
GuestQuote:“There are exceptions to some rules. For example, we believe the commandment is not violated by killing pursuant to a lawful order in an armed conflict. But don’t ask me to give an opinion on your exception. I only teach general rules. Whether an exception applies to you is your responsibility. You must work that out individually between you and the Lord.”
Elder Dallin H. Oaks, Ensign, June 2006, p. 16
October 14, 2013 at 8:01 am #265943Anonymous
GuestQuote:“We are all liable to error; are subject, more or less, to the errors incident to the human family. We would be pleased to get along without these errors, and many may think that a man in my standing ought to be perfect; no such thing.”
Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, 10:212October 14, 2013 at 8:02 am #265944Anonymous
GuestQuote:“Sometimes traditions, customs, social practices, and personal preferences of individual Church members may, through repeated or common usage be misconstrued as Church procedures or policies. Occasionally, such traditions, customs and practices may even be regarded by some as eternal principles.”
Elder Ronald Poelman, 1984 General ConferenceOctober 14, 2013 at 8:02 am #265945Anonymous
GuestQuote:“President Wilford Woodruff is a man of wisdom and experience, and we respect him, but we do not believe his personal views or utterances are revelations from God; and when ‘Thus saith the Lord’, comes from him, the saints investigate it: they do not shut their eyes and take it down like a pill.”
Apostle Charles Penrose (Millennial Star 54:191)October 14, 2013 at 8:03 am #265946Anonymous
GuestPresident Kimball on receiving the 1978 revelation: Quote:“Day after day, and especially on Saturdays and Sundays when there were no organizations [sessions] in the temple, I went there when I could be alone.
“I was very humble . . . I was searching for this . . . I wanted to be sure. . . . I had a great deal to fight . . . myself, largely, because I had grown up with this thought that Negroes should not have the priesthood and I was prepared to go all the rest of my life until my death and fight for it and defend it as it was.”
(Anyone have a reference for this?)
Best I’ve found is: “Kimball, Edward, 48”
October 14, 2013 at 6:35 pm #265947Anonymous
GuestEinstein – God is subtle, but He is not malicious. (Unsourced) October 14, 2013 at 10:51 pm #265948Anonymous
Guestmackay11 wrote:President Kimball on receiving the 1978 revelation:
Quote:“Day after day, and especially on Saturdays and Sundays when there were no organizations [sessions] in the temple, I went there when I could be alone.
“I was very humble . . . I was searching for this . . . I wanted to be sure. . . . I had a great deal to fight . . . myself, largely, because I had grown up with this thought that Negroes should not have the priesthood and I was prepared to go all the rest of my life until my death and fight for it and defend it as it was.”
(Anyone have a reference for this?)
Best I’ve found is: “Kimball, Edward, 48”
How about“We had this special prayer circle, then I knew that the time had come. I had a great deal to fight, of course, myself largely, because I had grown up with this thought that Negroes should not have the priesthood and I was prepared to go all the rest of my life till my death and fight for it and defend it as it was. But this revelation and assurance came to me so clearly that there was no question about it.” (Deseret News, Church Section, January 6, 1979, page 4)
October 14, 2013 at 11:03 pm #265949Anonymous
Guest[in regard his book _The Miracle of Forgiveness_] “Spencer later seemed to wish he had adopted a gentler tone. In 1977 he said to Lyle Ward,
his neighbor, ‘Sometimes I think I might have been a little too strong
about some of the things I wrote in this book’. . . . When he heard of
others who read the book and became discouraged by a standard that
seemed to them unattainable, he wished he had communicated more
understanding and encouragement.”
— Edward Kimball in Lengthen Your Stride: The
Presidency of Spencer W. Kimball pp. 79-80
October 15, 2013 at 5:23 am #265950Anonymous
GuestThanks October 15, 2013 at 5:23 am #265951Anonymous
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At a reception McKay attended, the hostess served rum cake. ”All the guests hesitated, watching to see what McKay would do. He smacked his lips and began to eat.” When one guest expostulated, “‘But President McKay, don’t you know that is rum cake?’ McKay smiled and reminded the guest that the Word of Wisdom forbade drinking alcohol, not eating it.”
October 15, 2013 at 5:34 am #265952Anonymous
GuestGood to hear from you, HiJolly!! October 26, 2013 at 8:05 am #265953Anonymous
GuestQuote:When God speaks to the people, he does it in a manner to suit their circumstances and capacities. He spoke to the children of Jacob through Moses, as a blind, stiff-necked people, and when Jesus and his Apostles came they talked with the Jews as a benighted, wicked, selfish people. They would not receive the Gospel, though presented to them by the Son of God in all its righteousness, beauty and glory. Should the Lord Almighty send an angel to re-write the Bible, it would in many places be very different from what it now is. And I will even venture to say that if the Book of Mormon were now to be re-written, in many instances it would materially differ from the present translation. According as people are willing to receive the things of God, so the heavens send forth their blessings. If the people are stiff-necked, the Lord can tell them but little.
Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 9:311. [13 July 1862]October 26, 2013 at 8:12 am #265954Anonymous
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B. H. Roberts was preoccupied with Joseph Smith’s role as translator. One reason was that critics turned Joseph’s phrase “by the gift and power of God” into a claim he never made, that of verbal inerrancy. Roberts wrote a whole treatise on these issues, concluding thatJoseph Smith could not escape his own skin. Joseph’s vocabulary and grammar are as clearly imposed on the book as are fingerprints on a coin. When Harold Glen Clark asked President Roberts if the Book of Mormon would read differently had it been translated by someone else, B. H. Roberts replied, “Of course, not in substance and basic message but in modes of expression.”Although Joseph Smith affirmed he used a Urim and Thummim, the instrument did not do everything and the Prophet nothing. Roberts insisted that the translation process was neither so simple nor so easy a thing as has been supposed by both advocates and critics of the Prophet. On the contrary, “brain sweat” was required, and preparation, and labor.Further, as an illustration that exact word-for-word translation of one language into another is impossible, Roberts presented examples from the Greek New Testament showing that the word Master used in the authorized version is a translation of six different Greek words all having different shades of meaning. Judgment stands for eight different Greek words. He concluded, “Let us rid ourselves of the reproach of charging error, even though it be of forms of expression, unto God.” Elder Roberts hoped for the day when the President of the Church would authorize that the Book of Mormon be “made a classic in English . . . without changing the shade of a single idea or statement.”He did not live to see it become a classic in other translations.
B. H. Roberts and the Book of Mormon, Truman G. Madsenhttps://rsc.byu.edu/archived/book-mormon-authorship-new-light-ancient-origins/1-b-h-roberts-and-book-mormon -
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