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    That bible scripture has been used in a lot of ways in my life to justify ripping families apart. We laud people who are willing to leave their families, be disowned and everything else to have a temple wedding or whatever. We say things like: “Well, the gospel is worth any sacrifice”…and yet the sacrifice being made is family relationships which the church seems to indicate is the fundamental unit of society as well as the church.

    Its a mixed message. Family is important as long as it doesn’t come before the church. If it does?…sacrifice the family for the church.

    Sorry, but I often hear this message. Am I the only one who has ever heard this message?

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    The bible can justify just about anything, depending on the interpretations by some people, if you are looking to do so. Think of the all the atrocities in history that mingled scripture with evil to deceive masses of people to do the wrong thing.

    I don’t care what the 6th translation of ancient texts can be quoted in isolation to support someone else’s ideas…I do not give authority to anyone else to preside over my family in my home with my kids. Contention is of the devil. Anyone trying to divide my home is considered a threat and a devil, for which I will fight to keep my family protected.

    That’s my overly dramatic way of saying…don’t tread on me, dude!

    Not everyone would do this…but I would approach the bishop in person over this…ask if what I heard was true and see if he is trying to tell youth to keep things from their parents, and then tell him that because I’ve lost trust, there would be no further interviews with my daughter without me present to observe. I would leave it up to my wife to tell me if she wants me present in any of her interviews for support and respect her wishes if not because she can hold her own, I’m sure, and I trust my wife. But until the kids were 18, I would be at every interview. If the bishop doesn’t like it…I would ask him to talk to his Stake President about his approach and ask who holds the keys to preside in my home and get back to me with an answer.

    With my personality, I would also double my presence in the ward where my kids were attending. Double my service. Double my participation in classes. Double my time with youth activities. Because I would want that bishop knowing I’m here to make sure my kids are not being driven from me. And hold the bishop accountable to ask if he ever met with the SP to ask who presides in my home, who holds keys to receive revelation for my children, who is ultimately responsible for teaching my children the gospel. The ward should support my family, not divide it…I don’t care what scripture people pull out of their ear to quote me on it…I’d just quote them back 1 Ne. 2:15…and tell them that is what they should do.

    If I ever needed a motivation to go to church, it would be to watch over my kids who are there, regardless of how painful it is for me personally. I care about my kids more than I care about any priesthood, teaching, doctrine, or scripture.

    It might embarrass your daughter and her ask you not to do that…but…from experience…my kids later as adults have said they think I over react…but they kinda like it when it makes them feel loved. 🙂 I also embarrass them all the time, so…they get used to it…they roll their eyes and mock me.

    #305928
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    I decided just to let this slide. A member of the SP came to our house this week — he is out HT and he knows me very well. He never talks about our activity level — he knows where I stand and it’s very familiar.

    One thing he did, was ask if it was OK if he interviewed my daughter, alone, for her recommendation to BYU. Given the secrecy and disloyalty encouraged by our Bishop detailed in the opening post, this was a breath of fresh air. Should I ever be in church leadership again (unlikely) I will never assume parents are Ok with their kids being interviewed without the parent there — I will always ask.

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