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patients are not only a what did jesus call them any way they will save you a whole lot of money you see last week I lost my patients with my computer one to many times and I ended up scruwing up my hard drive I’m talking like fryed it to get that replaced it costed me 178.00 yea patients it turnes out to be a pretty good thing to have around after all :thumbup: :thumbup: OK, who wants to tackle talking with this person privately? oh boy … I think this is a person with some mental health issues. I just sent him a PM, and then opened up the board to check thing to see this new problem. He was talking about not giving in to suicide because of his battle with “the adversary.” I will go back and amend my PM, seeing more of the picture now.
I am already talking to him, so I might as well continue. My heart really goes out to people with these problems, but I don’t think we are equipped to offer help to people with their mental illness directly. I don’t think he is having perspective, theological or historical problems. He sounds like a regular believer that currently needs medical/professional help.
Thanks, Brian. I thought the moniker itself rang a bell in my mind, but I didn’t look him up. I’m interested in learning how you deal with such a person as an Admin. Can you post the PM in this thread so I can see how that is handled? Heber13 wrote:I’m interested in learning how you deal with such a person as an Admin. Can you post the PM in this thread so I can see how that is handled?
note: I express some of my personal views about porn problems. I don’t see my view as “official” or correct for the site in any way shape or form. It just seemed like the best thing I could say to him.
wmgoethe to Brian
Dear Brian you have no need in worrying about me doing anything to hurt my self you see that would be giving the adversary the very thing that he wants most of all. I only wanted to set up a thread or what you call it where those of us with addictions and are in the church could go to talk about our problems share ideas on how to beat these problems and basicly just be a support for each other and I’m more than willing to take any and all sugestions you or any body else might have on how to set this up and all that thank you billy
Brian to wmgoethe
Hey Billy,
I will setup a topic to talk about addictions, struggling with them and the relationship to the Church. I will send you a link via PM when I go do that shortly.
I really do feel for you and your struggle. It is a very very common problem. I think it needs to generally be toned down a LOT in the church. They should take a stand publicly, but they really need to find a better way of communicating more effective recovery information, and de-stigmatize it so people can come out of the terrible private secrecy to get help. On one level it is a problem, but on another level … it’s just looking at pictures or videos on a screen. In the grand scheme of things, it really needs to be dealt with differently in my opinion.
I am going to be blunt with you because I care, and because I don’t know a lot about you because we are communicating in a very limited way. You do not sound like you are handling this in a psychologically healthy way. I say that with love and acceptance. It doesn’t bother or offend me that you have a problem with porn. I really don’t think less of you. But it really sounds like you need some help there locally wherever you live. Reach out and contact real people in your community.
Go see your Bishop perhaps, whether or not you have been active in church. The Church runs 12-step programs for all kinds of addictions in most stakes. These are free and are confidential / private groups that meet at church buildings. You can also find other support groups in your area by searching the internet.
Our site has lots of tolerant and accepting people. But we are not really trained or skilled to help people with serious mental health issues. If you are talking about suicide, it is serious. There’s no shame in reaching out for help. But our site is mostly geared towards people who have lost their faith in the Church and in God or religion. We are just volunteers, and have no special training except having gone through a crisis of faith.
Love you brother! Hang in there and get some help locally. Everything will be OK in the long run. I have faith in that.
Brian, that was an awesome response. No way would I have been able to be so tactful. YOU DA MAN!!! :clap: :clap: :clap: Brian-the-master! Thanks for posting that and taking care of it so lovingly. Well done. Signed,
Young Grasshopper
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