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June 10, 2014 at 7:28 pm #285929
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GuestI’m my opinion, your HT was out of line both times – to put you on the spot about your testimony, and to teach non-doctrine as part of a home teaching visit. (This must be why they tell us to stick to the First Presidency message in the Ensign.) I am shocked at this guy. You didn’t owe him any response but you were kind to oblige him.
June 10, 2014 at 7:35 pm #285930Anonymous
GuestDBMormon wrote:If your the oldguard – How do you reconcile Eder Uchtdorf’s “we may have made mistakes that violated our doctrine” (not an exact quote but captures the jist)?
I would say the interpretation applies to personal actions of leaders – not directly related to running the church. Local leaders in 1857 directed the MMM, JS drank wine, somebody used a neighbor’s property without asking, etc.
June 10, 2014 at 8:21 pm #285931Anonymous
Guestwhat site is this? also I wasn’t inferring your “old guard” but rather speaking about them. June 10, 2014 at 10:24 pm #285932Anonymous
GuestEvery single person constructs a faith paradigm that makes sense to him or her – and that allows him or her to feel the most peace, purpose, joy, security. whatever is important to that person possible. Anything that threatens an individual paradigm tends to be fought.
What does this mean? All of us are cafeteria humans in the end – and accepting and embracing that is incredibly liberating and can lead to REAL charity.
June 11, 2014 at 3:11 am #285933Anonymous
GuestDB Mormon — you told me he hadn’t written you back, and that you were concerned. It’s hard to say why he might not have written back…but generally, it’s unsettling when people don’t. I didn’t check if you asked for a response, which is one reason they often give for not responding.
I also want to add — in our modern age that affords many different means of communication, I wonder if you picked the wrong medium for your message. As you probably know, the written word has a harsher tone even when reframed and qualified. And of course, its nature leaves people open to being ignored.
I liked your response, but it may have been delivered more effectively in person. The other concern is whether he forwarded it to anyone in the hierarchy.
Nonetheless, it was written in a way that I don’t think would get you labelled negatively. It’s just unfortunate it might cause you to wonder what impact it might have had on the relationship.
June 11, 2014 at 3:45 am #285934Anonymous
GuestI think SilentDawning has an good point to consider. Also, some of the older generation also don’t handle email well, even if they have an account. Somehow it’s not seen as “real” communication to them, or they have a hard time responding. June 11, 2014 at 5:25 pm #285935Anonymous
GuestHi DB. I appreciate that you handled it respectfully. There might be various reasons why but without good information in a situation I tend not to speculate. In either case the ball is in his court, it’s up to him what he does with it. It’s beyond your control and you’ve done your part. I would just put it aside until he decides to return the ball to you,
I wouldn’t ware much time writing about it. Deal with it one step at a time. I would wait till he makes context or references it to move it further. But I like the way it was handled. With respect and love for those they might receive pain and hurt from such teachings.
June 12, 2014 at 12:36 am #285936Anonymous
GuestI called the person today. Asked if I had given offense. They said it was taking them a while to think it over. That they needed time to reflect. They also HT our Bishop and when doing so must have brought it up with him. The Bishop defended me and helped him see where I was coming from. In our call today he says after thinking it over he agrees with almost every single thing I wrote. I was impressed that he gave it that much weight and am grateful for that willingness in him to consider what I sent him. June 12, 2014 at 12:52 am #285937Anonymous
GuestDBMormon wrote:I called the person today. Asked if I had given offense. They said it was taking them a while to think it over. That they needed time to reflect. They also HT our Bishop and when doing so must have brought it up with him. The Bishop defended me and helped him see where I was coming from. In our call today he says after thinking it over he agrees with almost every single thing I wrote. I was impressed that he gave it that much weight and am grateful for that willingness in him to consider what I sent him.
I’m glad it’s working out as it should. Really, how could he not agree – the stuff is legitimate and approved. I can understand why it might take a bit to sink in, though. It is sometimes difficult to change one’s way of thinking when something has been so ingrained.
June 12, 2014 at 12:53 am #285938Anonymous
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:clap: :thumbup: June 12, 2014 at 4:12 am #285939Anonymous
GuestDBMormon wrote:I called the person today. Asked if I had given offense. They said it was taking them a while to think it over. That they needed time to reflect. They also HT our Bishop and when doing so must have brought it up with him. The Bishop defended me and helped him see where I was coming from. In our call today he says after thinking it over he agrees with almost every single thing I wrote. I was impressed that he gave it that much weight and am grateful for that willingness in him to consider what I sent him.
Thanks for sharing this whole interaction with us. It’s encouraging.
June 12, 2014 at 5:08 pm #285940Anonymous
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