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    Cwald you were a familiar face long before I was one for you. I was always pulling for you on the MD&D board!

    Heber13 you didn’t say it this way but I want to make clear that I didn’t try to get my husband on board with me in my disaffection for the church it happened naturally as I would bring things up he would study it out. But I think he deep inside still believes, which is great and sometimes I wonder if I do too, despite all the evidence against there is that possiblity! And the times my husband would disparage the church or anything like that I’d defend the church, and vice versa. Oh the mentality of what we go through with religion and the not knowing anything for sure!!

    Thank you all for your kind welcome to be apart of a very nice crowd!!

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    Welcome! :wave: :mrgreen:

    #257247
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    Tacenda, welcome to the group. Your concerns aren’t new for many of us.

    I hope to hear more from you.

    Mike from Milton.

    #257248
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    Welcome Tacenda – I look forward to your participation here.

    Tacenda wrote:

    But I think he deep inside still believes, which is great and sometimes I wonder if I do too, despite all the evidence against there is that possibility!

    I still believe, I just believe differently – less literally. I guess I frame the whole restoration as a movement to connect in powerful ways with God in heaven and the great patriarchs of antiquity. Church History is even more fascinating because of all of the colorful characters doing crazy things in their best attempts to draw closer to God and find meaning in their existence while living and loving, yearning and dying. I don’t have to worry about who was right and who was wrong. Emma and Lucy Mack have been my particular interest. I find the fiction written about them as interesting as the scholarly work because it tells me so much about what is important to the author and by extension the intended audience.

    (I also pick apart plot points and devises in TV shows and movies to my wife’s dismay. It is hard for me to just focus on the story when the storytelling is so fascinating.)

    Heber13 wrote:

    I think this is a good example of how different sites fill different needs for people from time to time.

    I also have come to recognize that my beliefs exist to fill some of my needs. My prior beliefs did a fair job of speaking to my prior situation but then my situation changed suddenly and I was forced to adapt. This helps me to look more compassionately on my former self and the TBM belief forms he represented even as those old belief forms attempt to marginalize and discredit the new me. (i.e. when family and others attempt to label my current status as luke-warm or struggling – this saddens me, but it is the only way some have of processing what I am going through.)

    Anyway – I’m glad you finally decided to join the conversation. You are not alone and you are needed.

    Welcome!!!

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    I feel at home already :D

    #257250
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    I still have faith, have a testimony and believe … just WAY different than before. Some might judge me as being faithless, or not Mormon enough, but I don’t care. I don’t need to impress them. I’m on my own path. I’m doing just fine, better than ever.

    #257251
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    I like that brian…I have faith in and a testimony of the things in the gospel: when I say I have ‘faith’, it means ‘I accept this as a symbolic teaching of something’, but I do not know it. Faith is not knowledge.

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