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I know some people go on about suppression, and banning certain books, but some books didn’t make the canon because a) they’re badly written, b) obvious forgeries/anachronistic. If you think there’s problems with the canonical works extrabiblical books contradict each other even more, and some are very poor indeed. However, there are worthy exceptions such as the Testaments of the Patriarchs, Gospel of Thomas, Shepherd of Hermes etc which are well written.
The Eastern Orthodox Church, Armenians and Ethiopians have extra books too.
The church seriously needs to do its own edition of Apocrypha. KJV already exists.
This is a question that has pressed on me a lot. Though the rescinding of the practice of polygamy and the rescinding of the priesthood ban have been “canonized” – they do not include any words of deity. Even Section 138 – a vision of the spirit world given to Joseph F. Smith – does not contain any words from the Father or the Son. Thus, we as a church have not heard a prophet or apostle claim to speak for the Lord since Brigham Young did in 1846. We’ve heard prophets and apostles relate stories of spiritual experiences, visions, and impressions – but none have claimed to have received any real messages from God.
What does this mean to us?
The method of revelation has changed – God no longer “speaks” like he used to, but revelation is still received all the time?
God has stopped “speaking” for some reason?
He speaks, but the prophets are forbidden (or choose not to) convey his words to the church at this time?
He never “spoke” – but Joseph (and Brigham, once) chose to put convey their understandings in first person?
The church has gone astray, and God no longer guides it as he once did?
God never guided the church, and the first-person revelation was never real?
Depending on your feelings, you probably find one of those explanations more palatable than the others. There may be other explanations too, I’m interested to see how this thread continues. For a church which makes it’s most defining unique claim the fact that we have living prophets, seers, and revelators – we’ve sure gone a long time without “traditional” prophecy, seership, or revelation haven’t we?
All we can do is speculate. The reason we hear at church is “we’re not doing everything we’re supposed to be doing in the existing scriptures”. When we get all the existing commandments covered, we will get more. To me, that is a form of hokus because we are always “becoming”, so as a collective group, we will never do it all.
Personally, I think it’s because they don’t want to take the risk — or perhaps they realize they don’t receive anything noteworthy, and don’t want to compromise their integrity by publishing something “scriptural” when nothing exists.
1stAnd10 offers some good questions that I’ve often thought about myself. I agree with you, SilentDawning. We will never do enough collectively as a group. We will always be “becoming.” Anyway, if we could truly do enough, I highly doubt we would need the Savior. A question President Monson could ask Heavenly Father speak in the celestial kingdom? Lorenzo Snow said he saw Christ in temple and came out with some significant statements. Sorry. What I meant is that President Monson should ask Heavenly Father is what language do they speak in the celestial kingdom? Yeah, I did once read about Lorenzo Snow’s experience. Ilovechrist77 wrote:Sorry. What I meant is that President Monson should ask Heavenly Father is what language do they speak in the celestial kingdom?
The pure adamic language of course.
Ebonics There are going to be some surprised people when God says, “Wazzup?!”
Hahah! I like that, Ray!
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