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June 23, 2010 at 10:38 pm #232484
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GuestYes, I was taken aback by that. The chances of him knowing about that are extremely slim. I don’t think he ever knew any Greek (although he later learnt some Hebrew) June 25, 2010 at 12:34 am #232485Anonymous
GuestCadence wrote:Why do we need to manipulate and search for these basic answers if it is so obviously and accurate recored? I do not want to discuss the merits of the Book of Mormon but answer the question why is it not obviously true given the physical evidence. You can apply this same logic to polygamy or other basic tenants of our belief. I am not even asking if they are true, maybe they are just why is it not obvious.
This will probably be a frustrating answer, but it is my opinion. I don’t really think the answers are that important, not when we are talking about religion. I think the questions are vital. It’s the struggle to contemplate and stretch our minds that’s the point. That’s how i see it.
June 25, 2010 at 6:10 pm #232486Anonymous
GuestBrian Johnston wrote:This will probably be a frustrating answer, but it is my opinion. I don’t really think the answers are that important, not when we are talking about religion. I think the questions are vital. It’s the struggle to contemplate and stretch our minds that’s the point. That’s how i see it.
Brian, I also agree…because the Book of Mormon and the church principles are designed to help us grow and become what God wants us to become. The Brother of Jared used rocks to light the ship. Why? It doesn’t matter, but in doing so he exercised faith and could testify the Lord has a finger to touch rocks. He learned things and he grew as a person through faith, regardless of the truth of whether lit rocks are important or not. Parables are the same…whether they are true or hypothetical…they teach us by searching them out.The purpose of religion is not to be historically accurate or scientifically proven. It fills a space in our lives for meaning and motivation to do things. And so ultimately I don’t think the Lord or the top church leaders think the answers are the most important, but the individual’s journey to seek them and apply the learnings. If the Book of Mormon was self-evident and undisputed…it would remove the opportunity for us to stretch ourselves to seek it out. It can be more powerful as a mystery than it can as a fact.
June 25, 2010 at 6:27 pm #232487Anonymous
GuestHeber13 wrote:Brian Johnston wrote:This will probably be a frustrating answer, but it is my opinion. I don’t really think the answers are that important, not when we are talking about religion. I think the questions are vital. It’s the struggle to contemplate and stretch our minds that’s the point. That’s how i see it.
Brian, I also agree…because the Book of Mormon and the church principles are designed to help us grow and become what God wants us to become. The Brother of Jared used rocks to light the ship. Why? It doesn’t matter, but in doing so he exercised faith and could testify the Lord has a finger to touch rocks. He learned things and he grew as a person through faith, regardless of the truth of whether lit rocks are important or not. Parables are the same…whether they are true or hypothetical…they teach us by searching them out.The purpose of religion is not to be historically accurate or scientifically proven. It fills a space in our lives for meaning and motivation to do things. And so ultimately I don’t think the Lord or the top church leaders think the answers are the most important, but the individual’s journey to seek them and apply the learnings. If the Book of Mormon was self-evident and undisputed…it would remove the opportunity for us to stretch ourselves to seek it out. It can be more powerful as a mystery than it can as a fact.
Wow, Heber13 —- You have really grown in understanding and ‘light’! Excellent response.HiJolly
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