Why Can’t the LDS Church be open like this?

[Anonymous]

mom3 wrote:

Maybe when we are as old as Catholicism we will be able to have a leader be open like this.

Think of all the scandals we’ll have by then!

[Anonymous]

mom3 wrote:

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For me the difference here is that we claim to have a divine commission — can we justify ourselves by indicating all organizations do this? That for me is the kicker…

Humans will be humans. Only one was supposedly spotless. He was judged a heretic and killed for it.

I too wish someone in the top leadership understood the impact and pain of the historic discoveries, as well as the horrid policies that have created exclusion and damage. With that understanding, I would hope words or actions would be extended to help heal the grief. It won’t happen, though. It’s an experience that won’t be fixed. It is in that space, that we get to make decisions.

I believe in karma, and I believe it will continue to play a part in the unfolding of our church. Already the numbers who have left are staggering. Some form of Mormonism will rise up out of it and keep going. I can’t fully guess what that is, but we have done it before. There is a draw beyond the history that holds people here.

Maybe when we are as old as Catholicism we will be able to have a leader be open like this.

Nonetheless, I would certainly expect a higher standard of behavior when things go wrong as He works through these imperfect humans.

[Anonymous]

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Nonetheless, I would certainly expect a higher standard of behavior when things go wrong as He works through these imperfect humans.

Me, too, once upon a time.

Not now.

I appreciate some of the good things our church can do and does. It’s now on par with all the other organizations and religions I know of. General average across the board.

I do hear you. Even as I have pushed back on the conversation.

[Anonymous]

I believe one of the biggest problems the RCs have is that their clergy aren’t allowed to marry. About a third of priests leave the vocation to get married to women, and obviously a notable proportion are gay… But I can’t help thinking this creates sexual frustration and deviant forms of sexuality in the long run.

The LDS has had sex abuse, but I believe it lacks this key problem so it has had less of it.

[Anonymous]

SamBee wrote:

dande48 wrote:

I see the Catholic Church having many similarities with the LDS Church, but on a much grander scale.

The Roman Catholic church’s problems make those of the LDS look like a drop in the ocean.

Right, but the Catholic Church’s membership also makes the LDS Church’s membership seem like a drop in the ocean. Naturally, where there are larger numbers of people, there are going to be more of them committing horrible abuses.

[Anonymous]

Not just that – political timing. The emergence of the Vatican between 1000 & 1500 years ago was the right time to establish a power base in the vacuum caused by the collapse of the Roman Empire. By the late Middle Ages they had power and corruption on a scale unheard of in the LDS. The only people who could resist the Vatican were isolated Christian communities like the Ethiopians, church in India and central Asian Nestorians, or the Orthodox Church but only because they had the power of the Byzantine/Eastern Roman Empire behind them.

The LDS arrived at the right time to exploit the American frontier, and to piggyback on American global might but the LDS were never the state religious powerbase, at least until recently.

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