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Joni wrote:hawkgrrrl wrote:
We all do it in talks, too, unless Merriam-Webster has been canonized.
If the dictionary is off limits, how on earth would the youth speakers prepare their talks?
😆 AFAIK the Bible Dictionary hasn’t been canonized either, but unimaginative speakers seem to live in it!
Fwiw, I use the dictionaries regularly in talks, since there are a lot of misconceptions and lack of understanding about what lots of words mean – and I want to teach a pure understanding of important words. There is a place for definitions in talks, even excellent talks. Understanding words is important, especially since that understanding can avoid misunderstanding – and avoiding misunderstanding is an really important thing.
Once, as I walked into the Chapel after another ward finished, I saw a copy of The Work and the Gloryon the pulpit. I heard a SM talk once with the LDS fiction book Charlieas the subject. I have heard SM talks that have quoted “stories” that were found on the internet. So, from a certain standpoint, I feel that it is appropriate to be a little limiting on what is acceptable. But I think the guidance ought to be just common sense; to use the canonized scriptures freely, and beyond that not use stories of fiction as primary sources, and to not present anything as doctrine from a non-canonical source, including Mormon Doctrine. Otherwise, leave it up to the teacher/speaker to determine what material supports their subject.
SamBee wrote:
Well we seem to use church made videos here (yes videos – those cassette things) and DVDs very occasionally, but powerpoint etc are a no-no.
Our Gospel Doctrine teacher in our last ward put together power point lessons every week and no one even batted an eye. It might be one of those “our mileage may vary situations”.
our last stake conference included many powerpoint slides, including the things that are attacking the church and the bubbles of things/people who influence people leaving the church. I taught HPG last week all on powerpoint and used a YouTube video also. I got compliments for it. It’s WAY better than boring reading through the manual.
Good because I’ve been using Rough Stone Rolling all year with my 9 year olds. I also use Wikipedia a lot (like when we were talking about Western NY being the “burned over district”). Oh and I’ve used Google images to show them pictures of Martin Luther, the Gutenberg Press, stuff like that. I’m wildly uncorrelated (because the manual is crap) and I haven’t had any complaints.
Greg Prince is on the Board of Governors at Methodist Seminary in the D.C. area. He gave our Old Testament manual to one of the theologians there. The theologian said he had seen bad manuals before, but the LDS was the worst one he had ever seen. The best moments during our lessons in church are when we’re outside the manuals. Be it a story from some other source or personal experiences. gospeltangents wrote:
Greg Prince is on the Board of Governors at Methodist Seminary in the D.C. area. He gave our Old Testament manual to one of the theologians there. The theologian said he had seen bad manuals before, but the LDS was the worst one he had ever seen.
That’s probably because there is little to no actual theology in our manuals. We’re still stuck in the milk phase of ‘meat before milk’ – and we keep watering down the milk.
I will say that in my attempt to undertake an objective study of the OT the LDS view seems to read a lot into it that isn’t there. Last year I listened to the “Old Testament” lectures from Yale on youtube for free – and boy was that an eye opener. I naively thought, “I have studied this set of scriptures off an on for years – it should be an easy review…” If you had read a summary based on each experience, you would think they were different books entirely… I took a college course on the OT to satisfy an elective requirement. At the time the earth was only 6000 years old, so I got to pat myself on the back a lot for knowing more than the so-called experts. JEDP? Lol. Oh well. You’ve got to set up the dominoes if you want to enjoy watching them fall down.
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